25 Church Road – latest news! ‘Open Day at the ‘Open Door’ 10am – 6pm Saturday 11 August 2012

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25 Church Road – latest news

We’re down…

It has to be said: things are not looking great for those of us wanting a cinema at 25 Church Road.

Kingsway International Christian Centre (KICC) will shortly be holding two events at 25, Church Road to announce its presence and start operating in Crystal Palace:

  • Saturday 11 August – an ‘Open Day at the Open Door’, 10am-6pm
  • Saturday 25 August – an opening ceremony (‘dedication service’), together with a seminar and exhibition called ‘Connecting businesses in the UK and Africa’.

It is unclear how KICC intends to use 25 Church Road subsequently. It does not have planning permission for a church.

…BUT NOT OUT!

The Picture Palace Campaign (PPC) remains determined to bring a cinema to Crystal Palace, ideally at 25 Church Road. And a leading cinema operator still wants to come to Crystal Palace, and would still be willing to buy 25 Church Road. This strengthens our case for retaining 25 Church Rd as a place of public entertainment (D2 Assembly and Leisure Use, in planning terms).

What happened when we and our MPs met KICC’s Trustees

The PPC has had several meetings with local MPs Jim Dowd, Tessa Jowell and Malcolm Wicks. We and they have spent a couple of years trying to get round a table with KICC’s trustees and senior management team. They finally accepted and a meeting took place on 11 July. Here’s a summary of what they told us, and our view of it.

  • KICC gave an express undertaking that there would be no religious activities at 25 Church Road under its current planning use.  

We say: Nothing has really changed since KICC submitted its original planning application for change of use in August 2009. Far from responding to the community’s expressed desire for an entertainment venue which is open to all and maximises regeneration opportunities, it seems to us that KICC’s long-term objective is to replicate the religious worship and instruction activities conducted at its Walthamstow church and other venues across London.

  • KICC said it had produced a business plan and intended to hire out the building for conferences and ‘community’ space.

We say: The hireable community space would not provide anything in addition to the facilities already available in the area. In any case, conferences do not fall within the D2 use class. 

  • KICC stressed that many of its proposed activities –  including a Saturday Cinema Club, zumba and keep-fit classes, business seminars, counselling, and work with schools – would fall into the D2 category. It has already installed a single-screen cinema for showing family-friendly films on a conditional basis (that is subject to KICC’s approval).

We say: The ‘family cinema’ is a poor substitute for a professionally run and programmed cinema. And while KICC assures us that its other proposed activities are legitimately ‘D2’ in nature, they are unable to give us any information about them.

  • KICC said it was mindful of the impact of a large group of people coming into Crystal Palace and would be sensitive to our needs and concerns.

We say: Why then is KICC holding a ‘Dedication Service’ and ‘Business Seminar and Exhibition’ (both D1 uses) ‘where over 1,200 attendees are expected to attend’, when its own planning consultant said a more intensive use had “‘the potential to cause significant noise/disturbance and parking problems in the local area” which would be detrimental to the economic viability and vitality of the town centre.

  • KICC gave a sincere apology for any past failings in their approach to public consultation, saying they wanted to “move forward and correct wrongs, and to positively engage with the Crystal Palace community”. It offered to hold an Open Day to set out its intentions more clearly and transparently.

We say: It is unfortunate that, after three years of no engagement with the wider community about 25 Church Road, KICC has chosen the final Saturday of the Olympics to hold this event.

We know very well the strength of local feeling in favour of a cinema, the positive effect that this would have on jobs and opportunities in the area, and the strong desire to preserve the existing D2 use. 

It was very telling that KICC confirmed its ultimate aim is still to secure 25 Church Road as a ‘Place of Worship’ for its Wimbledon congregation, as well as members from across South London, Kent and Surrey. This is why it originally bought the building, and why the change of use was refused by Bromley planning committee in 2009 on the grounds that:

 “The loss of an important entertainment/leisure use within Use Class D2 and the introduction of a mixed use including a place of worship within Use Class D1, would result in a reduction in the range of facilities provided within the town centre, detrimental to the proper functioning of the daytime and evening economy and harmful to the social, cultural and economic characteristics of the area”.

What we did

Following the meeting with KICC, our legal and planning specialists helped us make a detailed case for D2 enforcement. On 30July, we sent a nine-page letter to Bromley Council, copied to local ward councillors, expressing our concerns regarding the inappropriate use of the building and the potential loss of our only significant D2 leisure venue.

Now what?

Bromley is considering the issue from all sides. It wants to see its D2 ruling enforced, but it is also obliged to consider KICC’s ‘community’ proposals based on evidence rather than concerns.

That means allowing KICC to go ahead on the basis it has proposed. If it then turns out to be operating unlawfully, that is within a religious context or outside the D2 use class, we have a substantial basis on which to object. The MPs have asked us to keep them closely informed.

What can we do?

Our focus remains on a ‘Cinema for Crystal Palace’. It is not for us to comment on KICC as an organisation.

So the next stage of the campaign is to monitor very closely how 25 Church Road is going to be used. That’s why we’ll be attending KICC’s Open Day this Saturday, 11 August. We hope you’ll take this opportunity too, and give us your feedback. 

We would also encourage you to make your ward councillors and MPs aware of your views. Thank you for your continuing support.

Picture Palace Campaign June 2012 Update – 25 Church Road

THREE YEARS ON! THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT!

It’s nearly three years since KICC purchased 25 Church Road as a D1 ‘Place of Worship’ for its Wimbledon congregation, narrowly outbidding independent cinema operator City Screen that runs Picturehouse Cinemas.

In December 2009, Bromley Council recognised the overwhelming strength of community feeling that retaining 25 Church Road’s D2 “Entertainment” planning status was vital to maintaining and enhancing the vitality of the Upper Norwood Triangle. In particular Bromley refused the application by KICC for a change of use for 25 Church Road from D2 Public Entertainment to D1 Religious Worship because it would involve:

the loss of an important entertainment and leisure use … which would result in a reduction in the range of facilities within the town centre detrimental to the proper functioning of the daytime and evening economy and harmful to the social cultural and economic characteristics of the area”.

The importance of maintaining the historic character of our town centre, whilst enhancing economic and cultural vitality, is also echoed by the planning policies of Croydon and Lambeth councils and the conservation area status they have designated to the rest of the Triangle.

FAILURE TO CONSULT

Like many thousands of you, the Picture Palace Campaign hoped that the contribution of 25 Church Road to both the local architectural heritage and the cultural and economic vitality of the Triangle would continue under the ownership of City Screen.

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Proposals and a planning application

Grape and Grain/Bigger Picture Gallery proposal

Future Projections, suppliers, project managers and installers of cinema equipment, have applied for planning permission to Bromley Council to turn the Grape and Grain public house and the Bigger Picture Gallery in a two screen cinema. The main screen located in SG Smith/Bigger Picture Gallery would seat 203 people. The smaller cinema within the Grape and Grain would have 51 seats. Details of the application (2 Anerley Hill) can be found on Bromley’s planning website here:

http://planning.bromley.gov.uk/online-applications/“>http://planning.bromley.gov.uk/online-applications/

Victory Place/Carberry Road proposal

St Aiden’s Group have put forward a proposal for a mixed use development with a 4 screen cinema at the Victory Place/Carberry Road site.  Planning permission has not been applied for just yet so this proposal is just on paper so far.  Further details can be seen in the latest edition of The Transmitter.

“Open Day” Survey Results

Thank you again to everyone who took part in our on-line survey of KICC’s ‘Open Day’ held on 11 August 2012. Below is a summary of the survey findings and attached are the pdfs of the main report and annex if you would like to read more.

The messages coming through are familiar ones, but they demonstrate the concern that the local community feels about KICC’s proposals and more importantly KICC’s lack of clarity about their intentions for the building. If this was meant as an exercise to win “hearts and minds”, it has had the opposite effect judging by some of the very balanced and objective correspondence the campaign has received.

Thank you again for your continued support – your views are important to us.

Summary of Survey of 25 Church Road ‘Open Day’, 11th August 2012

On 11th August 2012, Kingsway International Christian Centre (KICC) held an open day at 25 Church Road. The ‘Open Day’ came after three years of asking KICC to consult the community. This was our first opportunity as a community to speak to KICC about their plans and came as a result of a meeting with the Campaign and our MPs in July, which KICC, finally, accepted.

The Picture Palace Campaign encouraged attendees to complete an online survey. Nearly a hundred people responded before the closing date.

96% of respondents said they were a local resident.

The main findings were:

  • Most people attended to find out more about KICC’s plans and to see what it had done to the building.
  • Many are concerned about KICC’s intentions and the lack of clarity surrounding them.
  • A widespread view is that KICC’s ultimate aim is to open a place of worship, with activities in the interim generally orientated towards religious-themed events such as concerts, events and conferences.
  • 97% of respondents think KICC’s proposals are not a good use of the building. They feel that they fail to make any positive contribution to the local community, creating problems of traffic, parking and noise for residents and traders.
  • Nearly all respondents would prefer a cinema or other inclusive leisure use.
  • Almost all think that KICC’s proposals would not help local traders or contribute to the economic, social and cultural regeneration of Crystal Palace.
  • Many feel the proposals reflect the interests of a non-local specific community, who would be unlikely to use local businesses.
  • Two-thirds of respondents consider that KICC’s proposals do not fall within the D2 ‘leisure’ use. Just 3% think that they do.

120819 open day survey report

120819 open day survey Annex A verbatim